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we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we should not have -- >> what's your criteria? >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we probably would have been able to prevent that. he failed to achieve that as well. >> let me ask you quickly. what's your criteria for intervention? >> yeah. >> in syria? >> worldwide. >> what is in the national interest of the american people. >> how about humanitarian interests? >> what is the national security of the american people? it has to be in the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, that's got to be within the national sec
we should not have called bashar assad a reformer. and we should not have -- >> what's your criteria? >> we should not have waited for russia to give us the green light at the u.n. to do something about it. they're still arming the man. iran is flying flights over iraq to help -- >> and the opposition is being armed. >> to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq,...
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iran is sending arms to assad because his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. we should be working through our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines. it's essential we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. in afghanistan, i will pursue a real successful transition to afghan security forces by the end of 2014. president obama would have you believe anyone who disagrees with the decisions in afghanistan is arguing for endless war. but the route to war and to potential attacks at home is a politically timed retreat that abandons the afghan people to the same extremists who ravaged their country and used it to launch the attacks of 9/11. i will look at conditions on the ground and weigh the best advice of military commanders and affirm that my duty isn't to protect my political prospects but to protect the security of the nation. finally, i will recommit america to the goal of a prosperous palesti
iran is sending arms to assad because his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. we should be working through our international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran rather than sitting on the sidelines. it's essential we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. in afghanistan, i will pursue a real successful transition to afghan security forces by the end of 2014....
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we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances. putting american troops on the ground, that has to be within the national security interests of the american people. embargoes and sanctions -- those are things that do not put american troops on the ground. if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our interests. >> i want to return home for the last few questions. this debate is historic. we have two catholic and its, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both to tell me what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion. p
we should not have called assad a reformer. we should not have voided for russia to give us the green light at the u. n. they are still arming the man. they are flying flights over iraq to help assad. if we had the agreement he said about ira, we probably would have prevented that. >> let me ask you quickly what is your criteria for intervention. >> in syria? what is in the interests of the american people. >> no humanitarian. >> each situation will come up with its own...
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we shouldn't have called bashar assad a reformer. this invites weakness. >> the bashar assad a reformer. that was his only line on syria policy. largely was rhetoric kalt. now when you talk the three hot spots in the world, not necessarily in the entire world, which is iran, the war in afghanistan and syria, there wasn't as far as i can tell any policy disagreement that they were leveling. take a look. >> these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. >> thank hechks we had these sanctions in place. >> what more would they do other than put american boots to the ground. >> nobody is proposing to send troops to syria. >> we are leaving in 2014, period. >> we agree with the administration on their 2014 transition. >> michael, what did you make of this? >> when i saw paul ryan talk about afghanistan, it was like watching bambi on ice. it's like he had a boy scout capping p trip there once and saw the mountains and thought he was an expert. look, very specifically. this is -- ryan got really tripped up on afghanistan
we shouldn't have called bashar assad a reformer. this invites weakness. >> the bashar assad a reformer. that was his only line on syria policy. largely was rhetoric kalt. now when you talk the three hot spots in the world, not necessarily in the entire world, which is iran, the war in afghanistan and syria, there wasn't as far as i can tell any policy disagreement that they were leveling. take a look. >> these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. >>...
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iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. we should be working no less vigorously through international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran, rather than sitting on the sidelines. it is essential that we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. in afghanistan, i will pursue our real and successful transition to afghan security forces by the end of 2014. president obama what have you believe that anyone who disagrees with his decisions in afghanistan is arguing for endless war. but the route to war and potential attacks on is a politically it time to retreat that abandons the afghans to people, the same extremists who launched 9/11. i will evaluate conditions on the ground and with the best device of our military commanders, and i will affirm that my duty is not to protect my political prospects, but to protect the security of the nation. finally, i will recommit america to the goal of a democratic, prosperous
iran is sending arms to assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. we should be working no less vigorously through international partners to support the many syrians who would deliver that defeat to iran, rather than sitting on the sidelines. it is essential that we develop influence with those forces in syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the middle east. in afghanistan, i will pursue our real and successful transition to afghan...
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after international pressure, then president obama said bashar assad should go. it's been over a year. the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people, and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country, so the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified a free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with alice, the turks, the qataris, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place working with our allies. but, no, we waited for kofi annan to come up with an agreement with the u.n. that bought bashar al assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n. and meanwhile about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? you notice, he never answers the question. >> we wouldn't be go through all of the u.n. and all of these things. >> we don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe, the turk
after international pressure, then president obama said bashar assad should go. it's been over a year. the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people, and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country, so the longer this has gone on, the more people -- groups like al qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified a free syrian army, freedom fighters, working with alice, the turks, the qataris, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place working with our allies....
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and that bought bashar assad time. we gave them veto power and 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? you notice, he never answers the question. >> we wouldn't be go through all of the u.n. and all of these things. >> we don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and trning is getting to those forces that we believe the turks believe, the jordanians believe, the saudis believe, are the free forces inside of syria. that's under way. allies all on the same page. nato as well as our arab allies. in terms of trying to get a settlement. that was their idea. we were the ones that said enough. with regard to the reset not working, the fact of the matter is that russia has a different interest in syria than we do, and that's not in our interest. >> what happens if assad does not fall? congressman ryan? what happens to the region? what happens if he hangs on? >> then iran keeps their greatest ally in the
and that bought bashar assad time. we gave them veto power and 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? you notice, he never answers the question. >> we wouldn't be go through all of the u.n. and all of these things. >> we don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid, as well as other aid and trning is getting to those forces that we believe the turks believe, the jordanians...
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that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n., and, meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? have you noticed he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces that we believe the saudis believe. that is underway. our allies are all on the same page. nato as well as our arab allies. in terms of trying to get a settlement. we are the ones that said enough. with regard to the reset not working, the fact of the matter is that russia has a different interest in syria than we do, and that's not in our interest. >> what happens if assad does not fall? congressman ryan? what happens to the region? what happens if he hangs on? what happens if he does? >> then iran keeps their greatest ally in the region. he
that bought bashar assad time. we gave russia veto power over our efforts through the u.n., and, meanwhile, about 30,000 syrians are dead. >> what would my friend do differently? have you noticed he never answers the question. >> we would not be going through the u.n. in all of these things. >> you don't go through the u.n. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid as well as other aid and training is getting to those forces...
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assad is fulfilling his father's dream? that was the whole thing, that he went in and he ruthlessly got rid of people. now we have the same thing going on, which seems pretty silly. so almost a psychological thing. >> you know, that's a good question. i remember responding to some question recently in some interview, a similar type question, and it got me to think, and i wonder. the question i would like to ask bashar if i saw him today, mr. president, so do you think you understand why your father did what he did in 1982? to think of by a nest in that question -- in some ways i did earlier on command the kind of aborted it the type to mark another path. now i understand. unloading accomplices, the this is necessary. yes, this is a necessary evil, and necessary thing to keep the country together over the long term, and that thing that is probably how he sees it. and it is a shame. i mean, obviously. >> do you take that he would ever unleash chemical warfare? and do you think one reason he does not do it is because that woul
assad is fulfilling his father's dream? that was the whole thing, that he went in and he ruthlessly got rid of people. now we have the same thing going on, which seems pretty silly. so almost a psychological thing. >> you know, that's a good question. i remember responding to some question recently in some interview, a similar type question, and it got me to think, and i wonder. the question i would like to ask bashar if i saw him today, mr. president, so do you think you understand why...
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theysed prode strategic advice to assad regime. nowadays, they are even leading operations. >> narrator: opposing iran is saudi arabia, which is backing the sunni rebels. >> the rivalry between saudi arabia and tehran had started long before the syrian uprising. and now with the syrian uprising, the saudi government saw this as an opportunity to deal a mortal blow to iran. and they have carved that niche in this conflict by sending weapons and money to the rebels. (chanting) (explosion) but as long as they have the iranian support, i think this regime can continue to fight for some time. >> the potential for it to turn into a very dark and tough sectarian fight, the way it did in lebanon and iraq, is very high. and the regime has made it very clear that, "we're not going anywhere. and we're going to fight to the end. and if you want to take us on, you have to be prepared to sacrifice everything, and you may not win." it's hard to see where this ends. (gunfire) >> frontline continues online with more frguardian reporter ghaith abdul
theysed prode strategic advice to assad regime. nowadays, they are even leading operations. >> narrator: opposing iran is saudi arabia, which is backing the sunni rebels. >> the rivalry between saudi arabia and tehran had started long before the syrian uprising. and now with the syrian uprising, the saudi government saw this as an opportunity to deal a mortal blow to iran. and they have carved that niche in this conflict by sending weapons and money to the rebels. (chanting)...
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>> there is a whole category of rebels, the prchz to a ba shall al-assad's regime and there are some more democrat cli inclined shall we say to presumably would want to have a better relationship with the united states with the west and other friendly countries in the middle east, whether saudi arabia or qatar or some of the other countries actively involved in what's going on in syria a. the great concern the obama administration has had and the reason why the u.s. has not sought to arm the rebels is because some of those rebels may be totally opposed to the united states, maybe closer to al qaeda, for example, than to the united states, so once you start arming rebels in a major way, you're not sure where those weapons are going to wind up, and that's been the big concern of the obama administration right now. how do you make sure that the weapons you provide rebels are really going to the good guys as it were as opposed to the potential bad guys and that's not an easy question to answer. >> never. in fact, we have countless examples where this has gone awry. hold the thought for a
>> there is a whole category of rebels, the prchz to a ba shall al-assad's regime and there are some more democrat cli inclined shall we say to presumably would want to have a better relationship with the united states with the west and other friendly countries in the middle east, whether saudi arabia or qatar or some of the other countries actively involved in what's going on in syria a. the great concern the obama administration has had and the reason why the u.s. has not sought to arm...
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was that directly from assad? it is a coincident that when he was threatened he ordered an immediate attack on hamas. they killed about 20,000 people in one attack as you know, but most of 1882. he then had our problems. the shower has been different. he's engaged in the slower machiavellian but they killed about 20,000 people in 18 months. but is still 20,000 people dead or mubarak didn't kill 20,000 people. so how did bashar make that final step to the dark side, which is i will kill and i will kill until he no longer challenge because he must know is everyone in the alouette community must know, there's no going back. if they lose power, they will be slaughtered. so how did he make that final step to the dark side? >> welcome you hit on one of the main points, which is they see this as an existential contrast. this is something that there is no turning back on each side right now. for me, the answer to that is twofold. one, i think he really still believes from day one that he is saving the country, that he is
was that directly from assad? it is a coincident that when he was threatened he ordered an immediate attack on hamas. they killed about 20,000 people in one attack as you know, but most of 1882. he then had our problems. the shower has been different. he's engaged in the slower machiavellian but they killed about 20,000 people in 18 months. but is still 20,000 people dead or mubarak didn't kill 20,000 people. so how did bashar make that final step to the dark side, which is i will kill and i...
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why do you support president bashar al-assad? >> he is a very, very good president and the world. >> but some people say you should step down. you should leave pow is absurdi. he will protect us. all people like bashar al-assad. >> but so many people of died in syria -- >> because of -- >> that is what you often hear. they defend the president'. they brandish photographs of him and his powerful brother who commands the elite republican guard. a the governor's office, too, photograph of assad and his late father on every wall. the intelligence service keeps a close eye on everything here. the governor is the president's man here. i asked him about the tight security. >> security is not sites here. the situation here is normal and safe. just like any country, the security services will intervene to protect the regime and the rule of law here. >> now the fighting has reached damascus and aleppo. do you worry fighting could come here? >> we're in the process of putting down these destructive gangs in damascus and aleppo. i am not wor
why do you support president bashar al-assad? >> he is a very, very good president and the world. >> but some people say you should step down. you should leave pow is absurdi. he will protect us. all people like bashar al-assad. >> but so many people of died in syria -- >> because of -- >> that is what you often hear. they defend the president'. they brandish photographs of him and his powerful brother who commands the elite republican guard. a the governor's...
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obama said assad should go. it has been over a year and the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this is going on, the more people groups like calcutta -- al qaeda are going in. we could have easily identified the freedom fighters working with the turks, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with. we waited for them to come up with an agreement to the un. we gave russia veto power and 30,000 assyrians -- syrians are dead. >> what will you do differently? you never answer the question. you don't go through the un. that we have been in the process and have been for months to make sure that humanitarian aid as well as other aid is getting to the forces that we believe, the turks believe, the jordanians believe, the free forces inside of syria. that is under way. our allies are all on the same page. nato as well as the arab allies in terms of trying to get a settle. that was their idea. we are the ones that said enough.
obama said assad should go. it has been over a year and the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more fighters are spilling into this country. the longer this is going on, the more people groups like calcutta -- al qaeda are going in. we could have easily identified the freedom fighters working with the turks, the saudis, had we had a better plan in place to begin with. we waited for them to come up with an agreement to the un. we gave russia veto power and 30,000...
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we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer when he was providing guns on his own people. we should always stand up for pea peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we ekwiv cate on our values, show that we're cutting our own defense, it makes us more weak, it projects weakness. when we look weak our adversaries are willing to test us and our allies are willing to test -- >> with all due respect that's a bunch of mularkemularkey. not a single thing he said is accurate. >> be specific. >> i will be very specific. number one, this lecture on embassy security, the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for. number one. so much for the embassy security piece. number two, governor romney, before he knew the facts, before he even knew that our ambassador was killed, he was out making a political statement which was panned by the media around the world. an this talk about this weakness, i don't understand what my friend is talking about he
we should not have called bashar al assad a reformer when he was providing guns on his own people. we should always stand up for pea peace, for democracy, for individual rights. and we should not be imposing these devastating defense cuts because what that does, when we ekwiv cate on our values, show that we're cutting our own defense, it makes us more weak, it projects weakness. when we look weak our adversaries are willing to test us and our allies are willing to test -- >> with all due...
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iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the national security interest of the american people. that means things like embargoes and sanctions, those are the things that don't put the troops on the ground. but if you are talking about putting troops on the ground, only in our national security interest. >> i want to return home for these last few questions. this debate is indeed historic. we have two catholic candidates, first time on a stage such as this. i would like to ask you both what role your religion has played in your own personal views on abortion? please talk about how you came to that decision. talk about
iran is sending flights over iraq to help bashar assad. and by the way, if we had the status of forces agreement that the vice president said he would bet his vice presidency on in iraq, we would probably have this. >> what is in the national interests of the american people. the strategic national interests of our country. >> no humanitarian? >> each situation will come up with its own set of circumstances, but putting american troops on the ground, has to be within the...
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then president obama said assad should go. it has been over a year the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on the more people -- groups like al-qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with. but no, we waited for kofi anun to come up with an agreement with the un. we gave russia veto power. and meanwhile about 30,000 sirrians are dead. >> biden: what would my friend do differently? if you notice he never answers the question -- >> ryan: no we would not be going through the un -- >> biden: you don't go through the un. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help humanitarian aide and other aide and training that we believe, the turks believe, the saudis believe are the free forces inside of syria. that is underway. our allies were all on the same page. nato as well as o
then president obama said assad should go. it has been over a year the man has slaughtered tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into this country. so the longer this has gone on the more people -- groups like al-qaeda are going in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with. but no, we waited for kofi anun to come up with an agreement with the un. we...
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president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year. the manslaughterred tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into the country. the longer this is going on, the more people, groups like al-qaeda, go in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies, the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with working through our allies, but, no, we waited to try to come up with an agreement with the u.n., giving veto power to the u.n., and meanwhile, 30,000 syrians are dead. biden: he never answered the question. ryan: we would not be going to the u.n.. biden: you don't go through the u.n.. we are in the process now and have been for months in making sure that help, humanitarian aid swells -- as well as other aid and training are getting to the forces that the turks believe, the saudis believe are the free forces inside the syria. that is underway. our allies were all on the same page, nato as well as our arab allies, in terms of trying to get a settlemen
president obama said assad should go. it's been over a year. the manslaughterred tens of thousands of his own people and more foreign fighters are spilling into the country. the longer this is going on, the more people, groups like al-qaeda, go in. we could have more easily identified the freedom fighters working with our allies, the turks, the saudis had we had a better plan in place to begin with working through our allies, but, no, we waited to try to come up with an agreement with the u.n.,...
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but arming the rebels led to the massacre by the assad regime. i was sure that assad would use it as an excuse to call them armed terrorists. putting weapons in the hands of the people was a license for assad to kill them. he claims the rebels on the syrian pacifists' but islamic terrorists, armed from outside. >> 18 months ago, when the rebellion was in its infancy, fadwa called for civil disobedience on the streets of homs. she became a heroine of the opposition and therefore a prominent target of the regime. she was forced into hiding until she could flee. >> the syrian people have paid a very high price for their struggle for freedom. they are paying with their blood, their honor, and with their lives and the lives of their cldren. i drea of a future government that respects this sacrifice. i want a future government to realize the desire of the people for freedom, justice, and democracy and create a state that is not influenced by any religion or led by the military. >> the freedom and security fadwa in joyce in paris leaves her feeling even
but arming the rebels led to the massacre by the assad regime. i was sure that assad would use it as an excuse to call them armed terrorists. putting weapons in the hands of the people was a license for assad to kill them. he claims the rebels on the syrian pacifists' but islamic terrorists, armed from outside. >> 18 months ago, when the rebellion was in its infancy, fadwa called for civil disobedience on the streets of homs. she became a heroine of the opposition and therefore a...
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hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. >> okay. now, hold your horses for a second. we went back and found that secretary clinton actually said and she does not call mr. assad a reformer. to suggest otherwise is a complete distortion. she's actually referring to other senators who went over who described him as such. so that was an outright lie, but i guess the spokeswoman has now been affected by the same disease. we lie about our marathon times, we lie about gm motors and the factory, and then we lie about what the secretary of state says. that's just the norm now, is it? >> and we clech our pearls about how mean and nasty the democrats are. we just won't let us say what we want to say that isn't true. when you lose a debate you sort of clutch for anything and grab for anything. the fact that almost everyone who is speaking up for the romney/ryan ticket today is focused on syria. syria, the one issue that was discussed last night that 99.9% of voters are not voting on in this elec
hillary clinton was the one who called assad a reformer. paul ryan was correct when he said that. >> okay. now, hold your horses for a second. we went back and found that secretary clinton actually said and she does not call mr. assad a reformer. to suggest otherwise is a complete distortion. she's actually referring to other senators who went over who described him as such. so that was an outright lie, but i guess the spokeswoman has now been affected by the same disease. we lie about...